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  • #19720

    marcro
    Participant
    • Location: Northland
    • Bike: KTM 500 EXC F
    • Rank: 80cc Rider

    Have sold my KTM 500 exc F and am thinking its time to focus on back roads (gravel), beaches and forest tracks……. as well as the obligatory tour of the South Island. I have done a bit of research an decided that its most likely a choice between the KTM 1090 adventure R or the higher spec Africa Twin. My preference is to buy new.

    Does anyone have any comments………….

    Thanks in advance.

    MC

    #19721

    Eddieb
    Keymaster
    • Location: Hamilton
    • Bike: Suzuki DR650 ADV
    • Rank: 1200cc Rider

    @mark-claasen I think you’ve ridden both of these recently?

    #19722

    Mark Claasen
    Participant
    • Location: Auckland, NorthShore
    • Bike: 1200GSA KLR650NE WR450 RMX250, DR750,
    • Rank: 400cc Rider

    Testing both those bikes, from my prospective the KTM is heavier and has a higher centre of gravity but is also faster and more complex (TC and ABS is more sophisticated but harder to use and not on the fly like the AT)

    AT 5’10 80kg I’am not tall enough or strong enough to man handle the KTM off road (harder for me than my GSA)

    As a road bike awesome as long as not stopping at to many lights.

    AT just easier if you are shorter or smaller

    I was out with some 1190’s the other day and they were bigger guys and we were doing the dirt bike thing in the dunes and they were killing themselves once they got stuck or fell over, but that is probably over the top usage really and all still had fun.

    PS if you are like Chris Birch, KTM all the way though having said that Aaron Slight rides an AT and funnily enough I have ridden with them off road so know they can both ride 🙂

    #19738

    marcro
    Participant
    • Location: Northland
    • Bike: KTM 500 EXC F
    • Rank: 80cc Rider

    Ive done the numbers and watched plenty of reviews.
    The KTM 1090 is 207 Kgs, the AT is 228 kgs, when you look at both bikes the big difference seems to be how tall they are, as has been said, the AT suits a smaller rider ( im 6.0′ and 100kgs) where as the KTM is taller and offers a much higher riding position. It follows therefore that the centre of gravity for the AT is lower yet all the reviews, even when comparing one to the other comment that both bikes feel agile and controllable enough when being ridden of road.

    I have noted one or two negative comments about the AT’s front suspension off road, a minor rebound issue.

    Both bikes are more or less the same price.

    Next delivery of At’s, late October
    No 1090’s left, next delivery uncertain

    Im not getting any younger!!………..LOL

    #19754

    Tranquilo Jonny
    Participant
    • Location:
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    • Rank: 50cc Rider

    Am I the odd one out I am coming to NZ to have a look round for 4 months with a lot of off the tarmac, having just done Deadhorse to Ushuaia on a Tiger 800xc I reckon a smaller bike is the way forward much easier to ride and a lot more fun than a big bike especially as you are not looking at huge distances, anyone agree or am I lone voice……don’t get me wrong the KTM is a lovely bike but off road

    #19757

    marcro
    Participant
    • Location: Northland
    • Bike: KTM 500 EXC F
    • Rank: 80cc Rider

    Thanks for your comment

    The KTM is very capable off road but takes an extremely skilled rider to extract its potential off road. However you are right, open road riding in NZ is limited by its size, there are more class 3 roads than class 1.

    I am at home on my 500 in the dirt and find the 107 kgs it weighs easy to deal with on single track trails and in the mud so appreciate the implications of a much heavier bike off road.

    So…………I’m sitting on the fence, but I am going to have to decide soon.

    MC

    #19758

    Badjelly
    Participant
    • Location:
    • Bike:
    • Rank: 400cc Rider

    Hi MC – can I ask why the you got rid of the 500excF? They can be road registered, right? Short service intervals? Gearing? Comfort?

    Cheers

    #19759

    marcro
    Participant
    • Location: Northland
    • Bike: KTM 500 EXC F
    • Rank: 80cc Rider

    Great enduro cross bike, very capable, very forgiving yet very quick.

    Son grew up, found girls and got a drivers licence, I really only had the bike to ride with him.
    My bike was registered for the road, but never used on the road, not suited to being an adventure bike due to 10 hour service interval. So its now time to find something that suits my age and interests now.

    MC

    #19761

    OldBeer
    Participant
    • Location: Auckland
    • Bike: DL650, DRZ250, 1992 Africa Twin! (Temporarily)
    • Rank: 650cc Rider

    I just did a 1000 plus kms on my DRZ 250… In my opinion, small bikes are as much fun as big ones if you are riding the back roads. And less of a handful off road. You just have to accept that you will be a bit slower and will need to get off and stretch your legs a lot more. But it’s really a preference thing.

    #19764

    marcro
    Participant
    • Location: Northland
    • Bike: KTM 500 EXC F
    • Rank: 80cc Rider

    I have thought about taking a standard DR650 and doing the appropriate mods as a bit of a project, there are lots of aftermarket parts and plenty of others have done this.

    I have had DR once before, old school by today’s standards, might just suit my old school age!!

    MC

    #19765

    Badjelly
    Participant
    • Location:
    • Bike:
    • Rank: 400cc Rider

    Thanks. I’ve a drz400. Heavier, slower and more agricultural than the KTM, but service intervals are measured in 5000km increments. :-)…. but I think I’m regressing as I’ve been looking at the new 450exc’s…

    #19766

    marcro
    Participant
    • Location: Northland
    • Bike: KTM 500 EXC F
    • Rank: 80cc Rider

    If I was going to buy another dirt bike I would probably buy a Beta RR390. The 2018 models look very promising.

    MC

    #19813

    Claudio Saccomandi
    Participant
    • Location: Porirua
    • Bike: DR650
    • Rank: 80cc Rider

    I’ve recently sold my DR650, completely farkled and beefed up suspension.

    The reasons I sold it were:
    I don’t like how it looks like, it was super functional, but it makes your eyes bleed.
    Braking power not enough when commuting.
    Power was just on the specs sheet, very little going on the back wheel.

    It is a brilliant bike to work in your own garage and you can find parts everywhere.

    The next bike for me would be a KTM 690 Enduro or KTM 990 Adv or a BMW 800 gs maybe?

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