June 24, 2015 at 9:37 am #8860EddiebKeymaster
Rank: Round the World Adventure Globetrotter
- Town/City: Tauranga
- Bike: Suzuki DR650 ADV, BMW R100GS
The BMW R nineT is widely lauded as a great retro styled motorcycle with modern performance, but with a price similar to that of the S1000RR means many people looking for a modern ‘retro’ bike will choose something like the newly released Ducati Scrambler. That’s all set to change later this year with BMW Motorrad almost certain to release a Scrambler type bike based on the R NineT – and it will be priced competitively with the Ducati.
Despite its cost, the R nineT has been very successful for BMW, becoming its fourth most popular bike in its range last year. Using an air-cooled engine, its the perfect model to send down the Scrambler route. Even more so than the Ducati Scrambler however, the BMW version will not have any off-road aspirations.
The R nineT with its 1,170 cc engine already weighs 489 lbs (222 kg) wet and any attempt to compete with (or at least near) the Ducati Scrambler on price will mean the use of cheaper components which almost always weigh more. Reports that we are getting from a handful of BMW Motorrad dealers in Europe who have been briefed on the upcoming model state that the engine will remain as is, so no weight savings will be found there.
That means 110 hp and 119 Nm of torque. But other areas of the bike will be of lower specifications. Gone are the spoked wheels of the R nineT, replaced with cheaper alloys that will likely be clad in ‘dual-sport’ rubber like the Ducati. The S1000RR derived front fork will be replaced by a much more conventional unit, possibly even based off the F 800 R.
Brakes will also be donated from other, cheaper models within the BMW stable, while the exhaust will be a twin, vertically stacked unit that will sit beside and just below the rear tail section of the bike.
There’s no doubt the R nineT is a great canvas off which to base a Scrambler. It’s hugely popular among customizers and has already been converted into a ‘Scrambler’ on many occasions, such as the one pictured below by French customizers Boxer Design.
Given the higher spec engine, it’s highly likely that a BMW Scrambler would be priced at or above the highest spec Ducati Scrambler, meaning a price no less than $9,995. That’s a big drop from the R nineT’s current asking amount of $14,995, but as consumers have shown, people want simple, attractive motorcycles that represent good value for money. We’re excited to see what BMW Motorrad can deliver.
Attachments:June 24, 2015 at 11:22 am #9005
Yes, it will probably be ok but it doesn’t actually compete with the Scrambler. If they can make it sell at $17, 000 be light and have that same very low C of G then perhaps it might compete but I’m expecting it to be 30-40% more expensive and around 30 kg heavier.
If Ducati bring out the rumored 1200 and 500 Scramblers, it might compete but going by BMW RECENT history, it’s just going to be a style exercise. If you’re wondering about why I say this, you really should take a Scrambler for a ride. They are more than the sum of the parts.
Less is moreJune 24, 2015 at 11:25 am #9007Scott BaxterParticipantRank: 50cc Rider
I love this bikeJune 24, 2015 at 11:27 am #9009Jimmy With 2 EyesParticipantRank: 80cc Rider
Van Van right?
Attachments:June 24, 2015 at 11:31 am #9012
did I say only 30kg heavier? The R Nine T is already 50kg heavier (dry vs dry) than the Scrambler (I just checked) and as they say; cheaper components will make it worse. Lets make that 65kg heavier than the Scrambler then or equivalent to having your gal on the back. The new Beemer will be just another dressed up whaleJune 27, 2015 at 11:33 am #9014ChrisParticipant
Rank: 50cc Rider
- Bike: 2103 Suzuki DR650SE
reckon packing one of these on your bike would be the go. Do all the boring stuff on your normal steed then hit the swamps with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d1jNHBA5hAJune 27, 2015 at 11:36 am #9016ChrisParticipant
Rank: 50cc Rider
- Bike: 2103 Suzuki DR650SE
They are selling the plans so you can build your own Taurus 2×2 as long as you have skills with a grinder and drill and some Russian ingenuity. The dry weight of the lighter (original) 2×2 is 47-50kg. The heavy duty one is around 72-74kg. – http://www.mtv-t.ru/June 27, 2015 at 11:38 am #9018Keith FenwickParticipantRank: 400cc Rider
looks like a mamothJune 27, 2015 at 11:44 am #9020
by crikey that’s ugly: http://www.everybikesnews.com/new-bmw-scrambler-2016
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