January 15, 2018 at 8:52 pm #20690
Many people hark on about wanting a 100kg bike producing 200hp etc, but being realistic what features do want that make up a bike that isn’t currently available on the market.
For me it would be
January 16, 2018 at 11:25 am #20691Dave YoungParticipant
- Parallel twin cylinder – smoother than a single for road work but still physically small motors, check out the Yamaha MT-07 for example
- No more than 600cc – For the cheaper licensing, but really no more is needed on NZ roads anyway
- Naked – minimal bodywork
- Solid enough subframe to carry luggage
- Wet weight 180kg
Rank: 1200cc Rider
- Bike: KLX150L, R1200GS
Eddie, your ideal ADV bike is in the goldilocks range for me too.
I would like manufacturers to stop assuming all their customers are tall and offer better OEM lowering kits/options for the shorter ADV riders. Longer recommended service intervals would also be welcome.January 16, 2018 at 11:51 am #20692John WekkingParticipantRank: 80cc Rider
In my opinion, for day trips in and out of the hills, something like an XR230, for overnight trips where you need carry baggage a DR350 if you can find one.January 16, 2018 at 2:54 pm #20693Adventure MotoParticipant
Rank: 650cc Rider
- Bike: Husqvarna 701 E
550 to 700cc V or Parallel twin. Small front Screen. GPS built into dash. 300km fuel range.
Weight 160kg unfuelled.
The new KTM 790 Adventure might come close but will be around 180kg dry.
A reliable Aprilla 550 V twin engine would also do the job there, but sadly there is no such thing.January 17, 2018 at 6:54 pm #20698Mark ClaasenParticipant
Rank: 650cc Rider
- Bike: 1200GSA KLR650NE WR450 RMX250, DR750,
Adam was asking the same thing in the garden of Eden, are we any closer to the answer ?
KLR has been the closest for me (not for single track though) but with these twins looming could it be dethroned
Attachments:January 19, 2018 at 8:08 pm #20714OldBeerParticipant
Rank: 1200cc Rider
- Bike: R1200GS, DL650, DRZ250, DRZ400S,
This one. (or either of the other two in the garage) Given me+bike capability is entirely limited by me, there’s absolutely no point me waiting for the next marketing exercise to appear over the horizon and then wait a further 5 to 10 years for the second hand market to deliver me one I can actually afford.
Attachments:January 30, 2018 at 10:07 am #20810JoaoKeymaster
Rank: 800cc Rider
- Bike: R1200GS
Eddie, I agree with your overall bike description. I would add the following:
Shaft drive (Low maintenance)
Air-cooled (Low maintenance)
High ground clearance.
Low Seat (I’m short)
25 liters fuel tank.
JoaoJanuary 30, 2018 at 3:10 pm #20813
Apart from the high ground clearance I think you just described the original BMW R80G/S PD.
In this day and age it’s never going to be air cooled, they just couldn’t meet Euro 4 or 5 emissions with it. Shaft drive also adds a fair bit of weight over chain.
I’m thinking for my next bike I might try and go shaft drive again, I just can’t be assed with all the chain maintenance, particularly as bending down and standing up is one of my biggest vertigo triggers.
The yet to be released Moto Guzzi V85 turns my wheels but being a Guzzi isn’t likely to be light.
Attachments:January 30, 2018 at 7:16 pm #20817Muzz67ParticipantRank: 1000cc Rider
The Mash 400 seems a pretty competent contender, fairly simple and robust.January 30, 2018 at 10:01 pm #21078
But still a single cylinder and heavy for a 400.January 31, 2018 at 6:56 am #22047Muzz67ParticipantRank: 1000cc Rider
You’d never get that Guzzi to places a small bike could go.January 31, 2018 at 7:40 am #22048
True that. Although I’ve had 2 r80 g/s and they would go further than you might expect.January 31, 2018 at 1:54 pm #22050Garry FerdyParticipantRank: 250cc Rider
My WR250R with another cylinder and 350k range.
Dont need a lot more power, just beef up the low to mid range.January 31, 2018 at 2:25 pm #22052
A lot of people would like that, if they can chop 1 cylinder off an R1 surely they can do 2.January 31, 2018 at 4:02 pm #22053whiZZardParticipant
Rank: 250cc Rider
- Bike: DRZ400
A Honda XR650R with fuel injection, updated suspension, stiffer subframe, full lights/battery and an electric starter!
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