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Home Forums General Discussion Chit Chat Whats your realistic ideal ADV bike?

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  • #20690

    Eddieb
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    • Location: Hamilton
    • Bike: Suzuki DR650 ADV
    • Rank: 1200cc Rider

    Many people hark on about wanting a 100kg bike producing 200hp etc, but being realistic what features do want that make up a bike that isn’t currently available on the market.

    For me it would be

    • Parallel twin cylinder – smoother than a single for road work but still physically small motors, check out the Yamaha MT-07 for example
    • No more than 600cc – For the cheaper licensing, but really no more is needed on NZ roads anyway
    • Naked – minimal bodywork
    • Solid enough subframe to carry luggage
    • Wet weight 180kg
    #20691

    Dave Young
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    • Location: Taranaki, New Zealand
    • Bike: KTM 50 SX
    • Rank: 1000cc Rider

    Eddie, your ideal ADV bike is in the goldilocks range for me too.

    I would like manufacturers to stop assuming all their customers are tall and offer better OEM lowering kits/options for the shorter ADV riders. Longer recommended service intervals would also be welcome.

    #20692

    John Wekking
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    • Rank: 80cc Rider

    In my opinion, for day trips in and out of the hills, something like an XR230, for overnight trips where you need carry baggage a DR350 if you can find one.

    #20693

    MXNUT
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    • Location: Hamilton
    • Bike: Husqvarna 701 E
    • Rank: 125cc Rider

    550 to 700cc V or Parallel twin. Small front Screen. GPS built into dash. 300km fuel range.
    Weight 160kg unfuelled.

    The new KTM 790 Adventure might come close but will be around 180kg dry.
    A reliable Aprilla 550 V twin engine would also do the job there, but sadly there is no such thing.

    #20698

    Mark Claasen
    Participant
    • Location: Auckland, NorthShore
    • Bike: 1200GSA KLR650NE WR450 RMX250, DR750,
    • Rank: 400cc Rider

    Adam was asking the same thing in the garden of Eden, are we any closer to the answer ?

    KLR has been the closest for me (not for single track though) but with these twins looming could it be dethroned

    #20714

    OldBeer
    Participant
    • Location: Auckland
    • Bike: DL650, DRZ250, DRZ400S, CB500X
    • Rank: 1000cc Rider

    This one. (or either of the other two in the garage) Given me+bike capability is entirely limited by me, there’s absolutely no point me waiting for the next marketing exercise to appear over the horizon and then wait a further 5 to 10 years for the second hand market to deliver me one I can actually afford.

    #20810

    Joao
    Keymaster
    • Location: Auckland
    • Bike: R1200GS
    • Rank: 800cc Rider

    Eddie, I agree with your overall bike description. I would add the following:

    Shaft drive (Low maintenance)
    Air-cooled (Low maintenance)
    High ground clearance.
    Low Seat (I’m short)
    25 liters fuel tank.

    Cheers
    Joao

    #20813

    Eddieb
    Keymaster
    • Location: Hamilton
    • Bike: Suzuki DR650 ADV
    • Rank: 1200cc Rider

    Apart from the high ground clearance I think you just described the original BMW R80G/S PD.

    In this day and age it’s never going to be air cooled, they just couldn’t meet Euro 4 or 5 emissions with it. Shaft drive also adds a fair bit of weight over chain.

    I’m thinking for my next bike I might try and go shaft drive again, I just can’t be assed with all the chain maintenance, particularly as bending down and standing up is one of my biggest vertigo triggers.

    The yet to be released Moto Guzzi V85 turns my wheels but being a Guzzi isn’t likely to be light.

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    #20817

    Muzz67
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    • Rank: 650cc Rider

    The Mash 400 seems a pretty competent contender, fairly simple and robust.

    #21078

    Eddieb
    Keymaster
    • Location: Hamilton
    • Bike: Suzuki DR650 ADV
    • Rank: 1200cc Rider

    But still a single cylinder and heavy for a 400.

    #22047

    Muzz67
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    • Rank: 650cc Rider

    Different strokes….
    You’d never get that Guzzi to places a small bike could go.

    #22048

    Eddieb
    Keymaster
    • Location: Hamilton
    • Bike: Suzuki DR650 ADV
    • Rank: 1200cc Rider

    True that. Although I’ve had 2 r80 g/s and they would go further than you might expect.

    #22050

    Garry Ferdy
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    • Rank: 250cc Rider

    My WR250R with another cylinder and 350k range.
    Dont need a lot more power, just beef up the low to mid range.

    #22052

    Eddieb
    Keymaster
    • Location: Hamilton
    • Bike: Suzuki DR650 ADV
    • Rank: 1200cc Rider

    A lot of people would like that, if they can chop 1 cylinder off an R1 surely they can do 2.

    #22053

    whiZZard
    Participant
    • Location: West Auckland
    • Bike: DRZ400
    • Rank: 50cc Rider

    A Honda XR650R with fuel injection, updated suspension, stiffer subframe, full lights/battery and an electric starter!

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