
New mid-range twin confirms fresh direction for KTM
These are the first images of KTM’s new mid-range model – the first bike in the firm’s history to have a parallel-twin engine layout.
KTM bosses have been intimating for some time that a new mid-capacity engine was in development, but the suggestion was that it would be a V-twin, in keeping with the firm’s commitment to singles and V-twins, so the parallel configuration is both a surprise and a serious departure. This is the first time anything has been spied in the metal, and it’s clear that the project is pretty well advanced.
There is no official technical information available about the new engines, but we understand there will be more than one variant stretching in range from around 600cc up to a maximum of 800cc. The spy photographer who took the images described the engine’s firing order as sounding like a V-twin, which suggests the firm have used a 270-degree crank to mimic a V-twin firing order, and to inject some character into the engine’s delivery, while boosting torque at low rpm.
Parallel-twin engine designs have become increasingly favoured in recent years for a variety of reasons. They are cheap to produce and design, compact, fuel-efficient and also offer huge advantages in terms of packaging.
The other significant benefit of using a parallel-twin is its ease of packaging, giving KTM the versatility to easily create other genres of bike around a single engine. Slotting something like a 750cc parallel-twin motor into a mid-range adventure bike would make for a chassis and engine layout that would leave plenty of space for an airbox and a large fuel tank to be housed well out of the way from potential stone damage. Yamaha and Honda have joined the likes of BMW and Kawasaki in using modern, lightweight parallel-twins in recent years, and clearly KTM have taken notice.
As with many recent KTMs, there looks to be a large amount of component sharing in evidence. Not only does this speed up bike development, but it massively reduces costs, something that will be key to the firms’ plans for rapid expansion.
MCN understands that the lowest capacity of this new engine platform has not been set, but that the upper limit has been capped at 800cc. Our sources also suggest that these bikes are at least another two years from reaching showrooms.
Once in production, these new engines will be also be made available for use in the Husqvarna model range, further bolstering the sister firm’s range options.
All this activity is being underpinned by the growth at KTM headquarters in Mattighofen, Austria, which has recently undergone extensive expansion.
KTM CEO Pierer told MCN last year: “We are spending around €700million (£500million) per year on R&D, covering everything from road bikes through to Moto3 and all of our off-road competition.
“We are into a new stage of development for KTM. Every year the quality of our products will go up, our dealer network will get bigger and we think we have the prospect of selling 500,000 motorcycles a year thanks to the work we are doing in developing markets. Every bit of success in those new markets helps pay for better and better bikes in the European markets.”
From: http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2015/august/ktm-parallel-twin-800-spied/





This has got me extremely interested indeed. Knowing them, when THEY bring out a mid-weight twin it won’t weigh as much as a bloody Lancaster Bomber as does the new Africa Twin!
I’ll looking at buying a new bike in 11 months time and counting! Mmmmm, could this be it?
Don’t hold your breath Stefan. The articles says at least 2 yrs away…
Oh well, I won’t be waiting that long. I’ll settle for a kitted out 690 instead. At least the motor is well proven…
I’ll be looking very closely at this too. Maybe my Ducati goes in favour of a light weight KTM…….
I suspect it will still be whale.
Some very blurry spy shots have emerged from MCN.com of what is supposed to the the new KTM 800 Adventure.
From: http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2016/august/new-ktm-adventure-bike-800cc-rival-triumph-tiger-honda-africa-twin/
At the EICMA show overnight KTM showed a prototype Duke with the 800 engine.
The all-new parallel-twin engine of around 800cc, has been named the LC8c, with the ‘c’ denoting ‘compact’.
The rumour mill at EICMA is that Husqvarna will debut an adventure styled 800 model during the Milan show.
More spy shots have surfaced of the long awaited KTM 800 Adventure.
@Michael J Breen will be wetting himself with excitement 🙂
Watch the KTM 790 Duke prototype in action
https://youtu.be/azVXkrbPtbo
New pics have emerged of the KTM 800 Adventure in a production colour scheme, also note it’s designation, 790 Adventure.
Check out this teaser video of the new KTM 790 (800) Adventure
https://www.facebook.com/Official.KTM/videos/1698405790230537/
So the KTM 790 / 800 Adventure is still a prototype but some details were released about the 790 Duke which uses the same 790cc Parallel twin engine.
The Duke engine is producing 103.3bhp at 9000rpm and max torque of 63.5ftlb at 8000rpm and weighs in at a claimed 169kg dry. The parallel twins 8 valves actuate via DLC-coated finger followers, has electronic fuel injection, two balancer shafts, a semi dry-sump with external oil cooler and a 6 speed gearbox.
The Duke also offers optional connectivity to your phone via the KTM My Ride app.
With KTM My Ride your smartphone can be tethered to the bike via Bluetooth, giving you full control over incoming calls and an audio player. All the information pops up on the bike´s display and you manage this optional extra with the mode switch, keeping your hands where they belong. On the handlebar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNetsMfEOr8
https://www.facebook.com/AdventureRiderMagazine/videos/1367472500028893/
Im totally in line for this. The only thing thats going to stop me is I want to get my 950 to 160,000km first
A couple of close up pics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDwKqgPtp54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R8SjwIYEP0
https://www.facebook.com/Official.KTM/videos/1988614977876282/
KTM 790 Adventure R
KTM has stated the RC8c parallel twin has been retuned for a wider torque spread compared to the 63.5ftlb of the road going Duke, but there’s no word yet on how that will affect the 103.3bhp peak HP that the Duke boasts.
Other details now known are that the fuel tanks are very low mounted for a low Centre of Gravity and are large enough for a 400km range, and allow for a lower than usual seat height for an adventure bike.
@birchynz, Chris Birch, eight times New Zealand enduro champion, recently rode the KTM 790 prototype and said: “I’m honestly blown away by the new KTM 790 Adventure R. Naturally, I’ve got a lot of experience on enduro bikes and the awesome ability of the big KTM Adventure models, and this just feels like the perfect combination of them both.”
https://youtu.be/tgb7nrjtHWE
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Oops,
Just like the recent BMW 1250GS leak before it’s official launch a KTM marketing sheet has emerged of the KTM 790 Adventure R.
The only thing it tells us that wasn’t already known is the seat height of 880mm.
Video of the KTM 790 Adventure at Intermot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUY9ja6X4Zo
Here’s the specs for the new KTM 790 Adventure and Adventure R.
The difference between the 2 models is the R has 40mm more suspension travel which adds more ground clearance and a higher seat height allowing more aggressive off road use, also the Adventure R has a slightly steeper steering head angle so presumably they don’t share the same frame.
As usual we have updated our Adventure – Dual Sport Motorcycle specifications comparison chart with these new models.
https://youtu.be/FcaWymGduOs
2019 KTM 790 Adventure
2019 KTM 790 Adventure R
Word has it the KTM 790 will be hitting New Zealand shores in May 2019.
Pre-orders have started for the KTM 790 with several adverts on Trade Me. Most of the ads are using a price of $23,000 though stating that final price is still to be confirmed, and specifying due dates of May/June 2019.
Closeup details of the KTM 790.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iezvXDmQGbw
I must say, but I’m slowly falling out of love with the KTM 790 Adventure R.
This is mostly due to the fact that KTM has gone El Cheapo on what is a premium priced bike, for its category.
The current quoted price on the 790 Adventure R is $23,800
Here are a couple of the things that I think could have been done better for that sum of money…
Clutch Lever… cable?! Really KTM?! This must be the about the only off-road aimed KTM using a cable clutch. Heck, even the 65cc kids bike has a hydraulic clutch lever. Where’s the Brembo or Margura?!
Brakes… house brand…
Once again, where’s the the Brembo’s or Margura’s, KTM?!
If this bike had been launched at about 20% cheaper (around the $19,000 – $20,000 mark), then those cost cuts could have been overlooked.
But the fact that a 1090 Adventure R (with Brembo’s, hydraulic clutch, bigger engine etc) is just 7% more (at $25,500) makes one feel kinda ripped off… doesn’t it?!
Yes, granted it’s a different bike, for different purposes, but surely the fact that it’s supposed to me more off-road orientated than its bigger Adventure R brothers means that it shouldn’t just be a cheaply made Duke 790 shoved into an off-road frame.
The bike still looks awesome, and I’m sure it is far more capable than my riding abilities. I just had higher hopes for it, and especially for that price-tag.
If you are buying a KTM 790 maybe look at getting an aftermarket bashplate before you take it anywhere too serious.
This one hit a rock which bent the bashplate enough to crack the sump casing. The factory bashplate is 1.8mm thick.
@gpcustom – going to borrow a 790 as soon as they come in?
The KTM 790 has arrived on our shoes with multiple dealers showing bikes being prepared for their new owners.
On TradeMe they are being advertised for $21,999 plus on road costs.